Children of Ann and John Jones
To show why so many of us in and around Llandudno are to some degree related to each other!
This is just a summary for others to build on.
Evan Jones b 1859 at Pen y Gaer, Llanwyddelan. “Evan emigrated to America, I can vaguely remember him coming to visit us when I was small, he lived in Pittsburg, and married a girl named Ellen.” (Rose's Journal). In 1871, Evan was living with his M&F on Lloyds Passage, Welshpool. He returned to Wales and is down on the 1901 census, aged 41 and living, with his wife, Ellen, and children at 3 Pentyrch, Llanfair Caereinion. Children: (1901) John; David Richard and Thomas Evan. Hilda Mcsorley's Ancestry tree says he and Ellen were married on 30th June 1883 at Conway and he died about 1903 in Llandudno.
Jack Jones b 1861 in Welshpool. “Jack was, in my Mother's words, a "bad boy". When quite young he rode a horse till it collapsed, and earned the nickname "Jack Turpin" - a name that stayed with him and his family for life. He went to jail for being cruel to the horse and then joined the Merchant Navy. I knew him well in the years that followed and thought him a fine chap. He married and raised a family who were well known in Llandudno as the 'Turpins'. (Rose's Journal). I can find nothing else currently, especially about Jack's marriage and family.
Sarah Jane Jones b 1863 in Welshpool. The Family had moved to Llandudno in the early 1870s so it looks like Sarah Jane remained in Welshpool, maybe because she had a job. In the 1881 Census she is living in Barley Green Lane, Welshpool as a domestic servant. The 1891 and 1901 censuses show nothing of her. There is though, a marriage record in Burnley dated 1890 with her father recorded as John Jones. Not impossible!
According to Hilda Mcsorley’s tree on Ancestry, Sarah Jane married Hugh Jones, Farmer, in 1888. They had two children, Sarah Winifred (two) and Thomas E (one). The 1891 census also has 17 yr old Elizabeth Jones, niece and servant, and Sarah Jane Jones age 13, niece. Living at 41 Cammenfawr, Llanfyllin. And Gwen Watkin 16yrs, servant and ‘Horse Waggoner.
In the 1901 census they were living at the same address, Sarah Winifred 12 and Thos Ellis 11. They now employ two servants. In the 1911 census they at the same address, both children are working for them and they have one servant.
In the 1911 census they at the same address, both children are working for them and they have one servant
Lucy Jones b 1867 (Stallard) Rose's Journal says: Lucy married my Father's brother Bill (Fred Stallard’s brother), and settled in Bolton.
She is 3 in the 1871 census (in Welshpool).
In the 1891 census, Lucy is married to William Stallard and they are living in 100 Church street, Middleton, Lancs. They have a 3 month old son, Charles. 1901, they are in Greenwood Lane, Bolton with Alice? 7, Albert Edward 5, Charles 2 (they must have lost the original Charles) and William 4 mths.
Rose Jones (Stallard) b1869.
1881 Census. 1 Cottages, Jones Yard, Back Madoc Street, Llandudno with M&F, Ann 14, Rose 11 (mistakedly down as 'Rosa'), Polly 9, Maggie 8 and Elizabeth 6. 1891 census: married to Frederick Stallard. Living in 7 Dylys Cottages, Back Madoc Street with just Charles and Molly. 1901 census, Rose and Frederick living in 5 Jones, Owens Yard with: Charles 12; Molly 10; John (Jack) 8; Robert 7; Nora (Tillie) 4; Fred 2; and Mary 2 months. 1911 census, Family living at 45 Alexandra Road (Mam always told me she was born in Back Madoc Street; as she was born on Christmas Day 1910, they must have only just moved here). Charles 22; Jack 18; Robert (Bob) 17; Fred 12; Mary Elizabeth (Mellie) 10; Rose 7; Ellen (Nell) 5; Lucy 2; Marguerite (Madge) 3 months. Molly would be 20 at this time and then married to Leonard Goodey, both living at the Central Hotel, Llandudno. (Rose was my Nain: Mike Llywelyn Cox).
Polly (Mary) b 1871.
1881 Census (as for Rose, above). 1891 census with John Jones (Jack Yr Ogo) in 5 Dylys Cottages, Back Madoc Street. + two lodgers. 1901 census. Jack (35) and Mary (28) living in 'Refail' Llanrhos with Rose 9, Fred 7, Jack 5, Primrose3, and David 1.
1911 census Living at 6 Tyn Y Coed, Gt Orme, Llandudno, John is 45, Mary is 39, children: Fred 17, Miriam 13, David 11, Mary 8, Gwen 6, Eleanor 4, Alun Lloyd 2, Daniel 7mths. John (Jack yr Ogo) and Fred are down as Fishermen.
My best search says EDWARD GOODEY JONES (Ted Yr Ogo) was born January, !913. Ted died in 1965.
Brother, Bernard Kitchener Jones was born in 1915 and died in 1940 fighting in world war two.
These were the decendents of Isaac and the famous Miriam yr Ogo. Jack yr Ogo was their son.
Maggie b 1873.
1881 census: aged 8 and living in the same household as Rose, above. 1891 census: Can find no record of Maggie. However, Rose's Journal says: “ My mother (Rose Stallard) went into service at the age of 12 years. She worked at an hotel named Birmingham Arms.” I think it safe to speculate that Maggie did the same as her sister and went into some kind of 'service' (she would have been 12 in 1885). The family had split between these two census dates.
In the 1891 census, John & Ann are living in 5 Owen's Yard with Elizabeth 15yrs and Harry 3 yrs (Rose's Journal says “...my mother adopted a boy, who she named Harry, before CHARLES was born”). Harry is down as 'grandson.'
1897 Maggie was with Griffith Hughes at 'Tanybrisiau', Llangwstennin where their daughter Annie was born They remained there and raised their children: Annie, Hugh, David, John, Jennie, Thomas and Griffith (Griff Hughes, Builder).
Elizabeth (Betty) Jones b 1874.
1881 Census. Living with Mother and Father in 1 Cottages, Jones Yard, Back Madoc street (census indicates it's an upstairs dwelling) with siblings: Ann 16, Rose 11, Polly 9, and Maggie 8. This means the family must have moved to Llandudno between the birth of Elizabeth and 1881, probably later in the period. Their means of travel remains a mystery. John was already there plying trade with his horse and carriage, so it was just Ann with the children. There are accounts of them getting from Liverpool to Llandudno by boat; but if that is so, how did they get from Welshpool to Liverpool?
1891 Census. Living with M&F and Harry 3 as above. She is 15. In 1895, she married George Beaumont. Their children were: John Herbert 1897, George 1898, Susanah 1901, Rose 1903, William 1905, Sydney 1907.
Elizabeth (Betty) Beaumont (nee Jones) died in 1910.
My Uncle Fred Stallard (b. 1889) married Rose Beaumont on 16th July 1924.
Ann Jones died in 1898, John Jones in 1903.
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